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Post by ib4 on Dec 12, 2010 13:32:14 GMT -5
if i void these two deals, which i probably wont, i would want to get rid of TE's all together too. Because shit's ridiculous. Every other deal in this league has a TE. It's the biggest cheat to the fbb trade system and a lot of work on my part when it happens so frequently. Plus I gotta go to 'propose trade' in the game then I see that a TE so I gotta go manually adjust someone's salary...just so dumb
even dumber when you buy a TE and it's the wrong amount, and then I gotta go figure out what the right amount TE would make it work. so dumb.
i dunno. I might make TE's more expensive, since it seems like all you gotta do is write half-decent article or have a couple double doubles claimed to cheat the trade system.
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Dec 12, 2010 13:34:15 GMT -5
I'd be all for getting rid of it. We didn't use it in BLT and that didn't stop trading.
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Post by mgcoug2 on Dec 12, 2010 13:35:50 GMT -5
they should have just done one deal
webber bibby
for reeves ming martin parker 5 million te capspace
that works capwise and everything
i dont get why it was broken into two deals
te's are frustrating maybe team should just get a set limit per year that they can buy? like a total of 10 million a year or even 5 million a year
i dont know
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Post by ib4 on Dec 12, 2010 13:39:43 GMT -5
they should have just done one deal webber bibby for reeves ming martin parker 5 million te capspace that works capwise and everything i dont get why it was broken into two deals te's are frustrating maybe team should just get a set limit per year that they can buy? like a total of 10 million a year or even 5 million a year i dont know actually doesnt work because jazz cap is less than 5 mil, which is what the difference is after Reeves+Yao+Martin+Parker+TE
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Post by kmatrixg on Dec 12, 2010 14:00:13 GMT -5
I agree - there should be a set amount that each team can "tap" into.
8 million, 10 million.
Season=Draft to Finals. That 8 to 10 million can only be used 2 times though, and no team can trade TE for a player unless it's a S&T or something.
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Post by mgcoug2 on Dec 12, 2010 14:16:59 GMT -5
hmmm i must be missing something the Jazz players plus te = 20 851 691 the kings salary =25 500 000
difference of just under 4.7 million
cap room is over 3 million
but if it doesnt work in game it doesnt work
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Post by kmatrixg on Dec 12, 2010 14:20:27 GMT -5
I just want to add that the RL Raptors and Hornets pulled a deal earlier in the season that saw 2 separate deals just so they could get around the system. I'm all for restricted TE's so that we're not tossing around non existent cap room left and right, but as far as two deals to make salaries work, I see no problem.
Another thing I think needs to start being enforced is quoting the OP in a trade. I see it all the time that guys are editing posts and whatnot, when all that needs to be done is a simple QUOTE, and accept from there. It'd save a lot of trouble of INVALID deals and shit.
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Post by Brandon on Dec 12, 2010 21:01:45 GMT -5
Well the fact that you can only buy a trade exception up to $5 million, that doesn't set the precedent? Quit being a friggin' stickler and just admit that it's total crap. None of us have managed to pull it because we all know that it's crap. If we thought it wasn't a bullshit thing, dnom and robby woulda pulled it 75 times by now. I'll again say, you know it's crap and if you were thinking about the LEAGUE and not your TEAM, you'd come to that same conclusion. I honestly wouldn't be putting up a stink here if it weren't for you going out of your way to make sense of something completely nonsensical. You're not a new guy, you've been with us for years and you're just now pulling this garbage. You think that matters too? It sure as shit does to me. Yeehaw, you get Webber,, en-fucking-joy. If that were a rule before hand, then sure I wouldn't have pulled it. It's not like Will and I devised a plan to shock the league with a two part deal, I've seen it happen before, maybe not in this league but in another ssbl a few times. Loopholes happen though. It's not the end of the world, or the sim league.
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Post by dukefan on Dec 12, 2010 22:29:44 GMT -5
nice trade for knicks getting that heat pick
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Post by m00sey22 on Dec 12, 2010 22:43:54 GMT -5
A little early in the season to trade for a draft pick, but Bell and fizer arent in my plans. Fizer started to play really well though in the past two sims.
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Post by shawncro on Dec 13, 2010 19:31:26 GMT -5
Honestly, I more then fine with the tradeoff...I lost my pick this year, but this deaft really sucks, and I added SARm then Sheed without losing a major player...Basically I trade 2 1sts and Scola for Sheed and the Knicks 1st...In my book, way better then trading 2 1sts and Randolph for Elton Brand alone...But time will tell.
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Post by kmatrixg on Dec 13, 2010 20:17:23 GMT -5
Honestly, I more then fine with the tradeoff...I lost my pick this year, but this deaft really sucks, and I added SARm then Sheed without losing a major player...Basically I trade 2 1sts and Scola for Sheed and the Knicks 1st...In my book, way better then trading 2 1sts and Randolph for Elton Brand alone...But time will tell. I gotta hand it to ya shawncro, you've turned your team around the last 2 days, and overall (on paper - I don't know what FBB is thinking) it should be a contender in the east. Not sure about the championship(!) but you should definitely avoid that CY boot now.
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Post by shawncro on Dec 18, 2010 18:36:39 GMT -5
The Blazers 76ers trade is the trade with most weird last names ever.
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Post by Akomplice on Jan 2, 2011 14:20:29 GMT -5
What's up with the Warriors trying to hype up Pavel?
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Post by heelsguy25 on Jan 2, 2011 14:40:40 GMT -5
What's up with the Warriors trying to hype up Pavel? Tell me how this has any relevance to a trade made? Hes a young guy who does more than his ratings state. Sorry that most GMs in this league are ratings whores. btw that blockbuster deal is a bit iffy imo.
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Post by dukefan on Jan 2, 2011 14:44:44 GMT -5
agreed....iverson and shaq are still top in the league
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Post by Akomplice on Jan 2, 2011 14:57:35 GMT -5
Sofo is one of the best big man prospects in the league, so him for Shaq cancels out I believe. As far as the Iverson inclusion, he could have gotten more but took his pick and a future which is what he really wanted. He now controls his picks which is key for any rebuilding team.
Celtics got the better for sure, but Grizz did meh decent. If it was a new guy I would probably veto but afro knows what he is doing.
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Post by Akomplice on Jan 2, 2011 14:59:50 GMT -5
What's up with the Warriors trying to hype up Pavel? Tell me how this has any relevance to a trade made? Hes a young guy who does more than his ratings state. Sorry that most GMs in this league are ratings whores. I'm bitching about Pavel because he is in trade discussions.
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Post by m00sey22 on Jan 2, 2011 15:00:54 GMT -5
I dont think Shaq and Sofo cancel each other out, I don't really like it. That's two superstar players that are both top 10 in the league for a good 1st rounder and Sofo. That puts a lot of faith into Sofo
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Post by Akomplice on Jan 2, 2011 15:03:53 GMT -5
I dont think Shaq and Sofo cancel each other out, I don't really like it. That's two superstar players that are both top 10 in the league for a good 1st rounder and Sofo. That puts a lot of faith into Sofo What other big man in the league are as good as Sofo? Sofo is 20 and still got two camps in him. I doubt any other young team is moving their big man for Shaq, would you have moved Amar'e? With Iverson again yeah, he could have gotten more. But the pick can't be stated enough, for a rebuilding team having your own picks are key.
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Post by afro on Jan 2, 2011 15:03:56 GMT -5
I dont think Shaq and Sofo cancel each other out, I don't really like it. That's two superstar players that are both top 10 in the league for a good 1st rounder and Sofo. That puts a lot of faith into Sofo would u of offered more? I wanted to rebuild only a few teams had what i wanted really
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Post by m00sey22 on Jan 2, 2011 15:07:15 GMT -5
It wouldn't of made sense for me to offer a young big man off my team for him, but im sure if they were offered in seperate deal he could've gotten more for both. However it's not that bad, just a bit strange to me at the moment
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Post by Akomplice on Jan 2, 2011 15:08:12 GMT -5
Exactly most of the young big men in the league wouldn't be moved for Shaq because it wouldn't make sense for them. The Dwight's, the Yao's, the Amar'e.... etc.
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Post by m00sey22 on Jan 2, 2011 15:11:34 GMT -5
Maybe Yao, maybe Biedrins, maybe Bynum. It's hard to say really for some, but I guess Im seeing it more and more. But would you really trade Shaq for Sofo straight up? I would've gave Okafor plus for Shaq. Okafor isn't Sofo but with the addition on picks, cash, young players could've maybe have been a better package.
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Post by Akomplice on Jan 2, 2011 15:13:19 GMT -5
What are your picks worth if you get Shaq and Amare and Paul? Nothing.
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Post by Akomplice on Jan 2, 2011 15:13:44 GMT -5
Id also love to point the fact that I'm so happy the Grizz won't rape me with Shaq and Iverson now...
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Post by afro on Jan 2, 2011 15:16:02 GMT -5
It wouldn't of made sense for me to offer a young big man off my team for him, but im sure if they were offered in seperate deal he could've gotten more for both. However it's not that bad, just a bit strange to me at the moment to me its the perfect moment...they're both expiring and I could of asked for more picks or/and a young kid in Darko and Boston would have no choice but to add them because of the players he was getting. I was happy with the package i got because no1 else would give me a piece like sofo and my pick back
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Post by runngunallday on Jan 2, 2011 15:21:27 GMT -5
yeah it kind of sucks when you have players that are at the very end of their prime expiring. because then you have to resign them to crazy money and watch them slowly decline for the rest of their contract. i actually almost didn't do this trade because this next FA is going to be crazy thick with quality players and i would of had sofo/curry/bron and a shit load of cap space. sofo ought to be 20/10/2 calibre in due time IMO
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Post by afro on Jan 2, 2011 15:21:40 GMT -5
But would you really trade Shaq for Sofo straight up? if i already had my pick then yes i would of done that deal straight up
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Jan 2, 2011 15:33:41 GMT -5
Honestly if it were one of the newer guys to the league I'd have issue with the Shaq/Iverson trade. But Afro has been with us long enough that we can trust him to work out what may or may not be a questionable move.
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