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Post by shawncro on Sept 12, 2010 18:23:38 GMT -5
If this trade goes through and you werent able to rebuild your team for the start of next season, ur seriously jeopardizing ur future...So I hope ur a good GM.
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Post by runngunallday on Sept 12, 2010 18:45:51 GMT -5
If this trade goes through and you werent able to rebuild your team for the start of next season, ur seriously jeopardizing ur future...So I hope ur a good GM. well its 03 and 04 1sts, i still have my 1st this year and next. im not expecting to be a contender after this offseason, ill still have next season to work out the kinks. wallace leaves a big void though no doubt that ill have to fill through draft or fa. but yeah i didnt realize it was sjax 3rd season so hes probably near peak as well. but right now hes putting up 15 and 7 as a 3rd option. so i would think its that its safe to say ive locked in a starter for years to come. lets to completely over look bagaric either whose 7'1 rookie and can develop into a strong player.
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Post by slash on Sept 12, 2010 21:47:14 GMT -5
If this trade goes through and you werent able to rebuild your team for the start of next season, ur seriously jeopardizing ur future...So I hope ur a good GM. well its 03 and 04 1sts, i still have my 1st this year and next. im not expecting to be a contender after this offseason, ill still have next season to work out the kinks. wallace leaves a big void though no doubt that ill have to fill through draft or fa. but yeah i didnt realize it was sjax 3rd season so hes probably near peak as well. but right now hes putting up 15 and 7 as a 3rd option. so i would think its that its safe to say ive locked in a starter for years to come. lets to completely over look bagaric either whose 7'1 rookie and can develop into a strong player. well, you don't need to worry about it now. trade committee vetoed the trade.
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Sept 12, 2010 22:16:06 GMT -5
If this trade goes through and you werent able to rebuild your team for the start of next season, ur seriously jeopardizing ur future...So I hope ur a good GM. well its 03 and 04 1sts, i still have my 1st this year and next. im not expecting to be a contender after this offseason, ill still have next season to work out the kinks. wallace leaves a big void though no doubt that ill have to fill through draft or fa. but yeah i didnt realize it was sjax 3rd season so hes probably near peak as well. but right now hes putting up 15 and 7 as a 3rd option. so i would think its that its safe to say ive locked in a starter for years to come. lets to completely over look bagaric either whose 7'1 rookie and can develop into a strong player. Couple things.. -15 and 7 on a TERRIBLE offensive team (5th worst in the league) isn't anything to write home about. -If you're putting any stock in Bagaric as a future starter, you may be a bit nutty my friend. The package you were dealing should've landed you a cornerstone player to build around. SJax just isn't that.
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Post by sonnyblack on Sept 13, 2010 3:59:24 GMT -5
yeah this was a real franchise changer trade, thank you comittee!
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Post by nick24 on Sept 13, 2010 9:36:32 GMT -5
Better for the Celtics franchise that the deal got vetoed. SJax has done nothing in this league and looks to be a mere bench/fringe starter on a good team at this point.
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Post by sonnyblack on Sept 13, 2010 10:47:30 GMT -5
id take him over your starter wings 10/10 times
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Post by nick24 on Sept 13, 2010 10:56:28 GMT -5
id take him over your starter wings 10/10 times Your mind must still be on vacation
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Post by ib4 on Sept 21, 2010 21:56:31 GMT -5
Brian you gonna do a write-up about the Kobe-Shaq divorce?
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Sept 21, 2010 22:20:49 GMT -5
Perhaps
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Post by nick24 on Oct 1, 2010 15:18:33 GMT -5
Don't quite understand that Raps/Pistons deal. Terry blows and will never be anything. SAR is solid and nothing more and will be nothing more. Unless I'm missing something, Finley is still good even though his numbers aren't good. He just isn't being used properly. Even though he's expiring, Dirk still has camps and can be around a 20/10 guy his whole career. I feel like the Raps made a deal just to make a deal.
Finley/Dirk >>> Terry/SAR...not even close imo
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Post by lakerfanrog on Oct 1, 2010 15:37:09 GMT -5
Terry doesn't blow. He's putting up 11 and 7 while making 2.7 million and is 23 years old. If Shareef continues to put up 20/10 that is good enough, VC is gonna be my main scoring option. Im rebuilding so I don't want finleys long contract and I don't need him to start with VC and Mercer. Giricek will replace him off the bench. Plus Dirk's loyalty is 68 so who knows i he'll resign.
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Post by Brandon on Oct 1, 2010 16:00:06 GMT -5
Don't look into the loyalty rating. Or any of those numbers period. I don't think it's committee worthy, but I don't see the point in doing that deal. I mean, you say you're rebuilding moving Dirk, but you'll definitely be rebuilding if VC leaves, that's for sure.
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Post by ib4 on Oct 1, 2010 16:05:43 GMT -5
Don't look into the loyalty rating. Or any of those numbers period. I don't think it's committee worthy, but I don't see the point in doing that deal. I mean, you say you're rebuilding moving Dirk, but you'll definitely be rebuilding if VC leaves, that's for sure. agree 100% I don't understand "rebuilding" by getting rid of a 23 yr old B+ B D+ A- C+ A player...even if he is expiring I don't understand "rebuilding" by "getting rid of finley's contract" when SAR's contract is just as bad (even though he is younger i guess) Terry doesn't blow...just not great...(yet?) bottom line, could get alot, alot more fore Dirk (couldn't even get a 1st out of it?)
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Oct 1, 2010 16:07:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't say Terry blows but he's certainly nothing to get excited about. You can talk up 23 all you want but the real number is 3, the number of TCs he's been through yet hasn't gotten anywhere. Even if he started with a high potential, lets say 90, he'd be in the 60s now most likely. One more decent TC in him, if that. The same could be said about Dirk though as well. He's no better then Rahim. No worse though either Good deal, bad deal, I dunno, we'll have to wait and see. Nick's Mavs fanboydome (yeah, I made that up) is inflating Finley and Dirk's value in his comparisons me thinks
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Post by nick24 on Oct 1, 2010 16:59:47 GMT -5
I put it this way...a deal just to make a deal. Really risky for the Raps imo. High risk/low reward type deal. If you go risky, get high reward potential. I do agree w/ Brian about Dirk being somewhat bustish in a way. He needs camps NOW. I don't agree about my fandom setting bias
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Oct 1, 2010 17:16:10 GMT -5
I don't agree about my fandom setting bias
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Post by Hammer-Time on Oct 1, 2010 18:36:08 GMT -5
can not unsee that brian...
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Post by Guest on Oct 1, 2010 18:49:37 GMT -5
Rebuilding at 8-4? the team wasn't that far away probably will not even wind up with a lotto out of it
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Post by buffaloblue on Oct 1, 2010 19:46:17 GMT -5
ahhh, so this is why I never visited sites after someone took over my team.
Dirk and Finley, Doh.
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Post by Hammer-Time on Oct 2, 2010 1:53:56 GMT -5
in my defense... he offered it, i then added onto the deal from my side giving him more than he originally asked for...
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Post by sonnyblack on Oct 2, 2010 6:09:44 GMT -5
this deal is plain terrible for the raptors, it makes just as much sense to trade dampier for mercer just to move finley too the bench
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Post by Hammer-Time on Oct 16, 2010 1:39:16 GMT -5
anyone find the the warriors trade block amusing? all the guys he didnt use during the season when attempting to tank are not available.
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Post by heelsguy25 on Oct 16, 2010 10:11:00 GMT -5
anyone find the the warriors trade block amusing? all the guys he didnt use during the season when attempting to tank are not available. Yeah okay..however I did use all those guys but nice try.
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Post by Hammer-Time on Oct 16, 2010 11:00:10 GMT -5
they played back up minutes at best.
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Post by ib4 on Oct 18, 2010 0:28:18 GMT -5
lulz
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Post by yesisme1 on Oct 18, 2010 2:10:16 GMT -5
My team should be catching flack for tanking too. After I knew my team was out of it I moved my offense from slow down to fast even though my team with the roster it had played better playing slow. I did it so I could get a higher draft pick and because I knew if I ran a faster offense I would get more cash through double digit scorers and double doubles. I never benched my better players though including playing Pippen who really served me no purpose if I wasnt going to make the playoffs because it isnt like I was going to develop him.
My point is we already have the penalty if a team doesnt make the playoffs or have a winning record. I learned the hard way in the last league, if you tear a team completely down building it back quickly is not easy. If they tanked they hurt development of good players and they could face the penalty of getting fired. Risking that so that you may or may not get a top pick for a player who may or may not develop doesnt seem wise to me.
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Post by ib4 on Oct 18, 2010 9:17:31 GMT -5
i liked the trade for the Hawks...got the starting PG they needed
murray for the clips is meh...
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Post by shawncro on Oct 28, 2010 5:56:09 GMT -5
Such an awful deal for the Kings for Webber...They are basically looking to own the last picks of the 1st round.
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Post by sonnyblack on Oct 28, 2010 6:20:58 GMT -5
yeah because the blazers are that good! of course it was my trade going to the council, while EJ is being sent for a future 1st and cash
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