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Post by mgcoug2 on Dec 27, 2010 19:44:18 GMT -5
they have looked better lately but that team is a bit of a mess, GMSP needs to get aggressive and stop hording assets
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Post by coleworld on Dec 27, 2010 21:53:02 GMT -5
Top 5 PG:
1. Deron Williams
2. Chris Paul
3. Rajon Rondo
4. Steve Nash
5. Derrick Rose
SG:*Very weak position*
1a. Kobe Bryant
1b. Dwyane Wade
3. Manu Ginobli
4. Monta Ellis
5. Ray Allen
*Had to leave out Roy because of those knees of his. His career is most likely done*
SF:
1. LeBron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Carmelo Anthony
4. Paul Pierce
5. Gerald Wallace
PF:*Was hard to find 5. Such a deep position*
1. Dirk Nowitzki
2. Kevin Love
3. Chris Bosh
4. Pau Gasol
5. Blake Griffin
C:
1. Dwight Howard
2. STAT
3. Timmy Duncan
4. Andrew Bogut
5. Joakim Noah
That's my top 5 at every position.
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Dec 27, 2010 21:56:33 GMT -5
lol, Wade being 1b... cough HOMER cough
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Post by coleworld on Dec 27, 2010 22:23:04 GMT -5
Kobe and Wade are equal *facepalm*
Kobe has always been surrounded with good players while Wade always had a D-League team around him and always guided them to the playoffs. While Kobe when he didn't have good players around him Kobe barley got to the playoff or didn't make the playoffs. He even bitched and whined and wanted out of LA until Pau came to the rescue. Kobe is good and all but Wade and Kobe are tied.
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Dec 27, 2010 22:30:57 GMT -5
Okay, enjoy the Heat game.
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Post by ib4 on Dec 27, 2010 22:34:20 GMT -5
lulz so I guess MJ was just as good as the next SG since he never accomplished anything till he had Pippen with him?
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Post by coleworld on Dec 27, 2010 22:36:33 GMT -5
Okay, enjoy the Heat game. I will  |
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Post by coleworld on Dec 27, 2010 22:40:46 GMT -5
lulz so I guess MJ was just as good as the next SG since he never accomplished anything till he had Pippen with him? I'm not saying it like that. Kobe is still one of the greats all time and same with MJ one of the best of all time. But as of now Wade and Kobe are tied. If you put Wade surrounded with the talent Kobe had around him Wade could have easily been a accomplish player like Kobe. Both are great clutch players and play best when they have to. Kobe is all time great but right now him and Wade are tied. At this part of his career. All I'm saying. |
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Dec 27, 2010 22:43:42 GMT -5
All you're saying is you're nuts  |
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Post by coleworld on Dec 27, 2010 23:03:50 GMT -5
If you say so. My opinion everybody has their own opinion.  |
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Dec 27, 2010 23:10:59 GMT -5
Just as I can be of the opinion that you're nuts...  |
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Post by coleworld on Dec 27, 2010 23:16:55 GMT -5
With my opinion O.o ;D
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Post by kmatrixg on Dec 28, 2010 0:52:23 GMT -5
I dont know... I have to say your nuts for having Manu over Ellis. I think Monta is a top 3 SG right now, hands down. He's one of the most aggressive players in the league. I don't even agree with Manu being in the top 5 period. Even CB4 in the top 5 PF's... man that list is kinda whack.
Top 5 PG:
Williams
Paul
Rondo
Rose
Westbrook
Top 5 SG:
Kobe
Wade
Ellis
Roy
Jesus
Top 5 SF:
LBJ
Durant
Melo
Pierce
Granger
Top 5 PF:
Nowitzki
Gasol
Duncan
Amare
Garnett
Top 5 Centers:
Dwight
Jefferson
Lopez
Horford
Noah
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Post by m00sey22 on Jan 1, 2011 23:44:07 GMT -5
Agree with Mr. Stephens list above, but I dont see Roy being a top 5 sg anymore with his injuries
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Jan 1, 2011 23:47:13 GMT -5
Agree with Mr. Stephens list above, but I dont see Roy being a top 5 sg anymore with his injuries I agree. I'd put Manu in there right now. Man is the crop of 2's in the league fading/getting old. |
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Post by m00sey22 on Jan 1, 2011 23:53:40 GMT -5
Yeah it is, once Allen goes, it gets really weak. There isnt too much in young talent at the position either. Evans looked promising, but has struggled this year
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Jan 1, 2011 23:56:04 GMT -5
Evans B-Ball IQ is so low. Chicken with his head cut off far too often.
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Post by m00sey22 on Jan 1, 2011 23:59:17 GMT -5
What other sg's are out there? Evans has to be considered one of the better up and coming sg's but that doesnt say much for the position
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Jan 2, 2011 0:01:24 GMT -5
There's some guys the jury is still out on, like Harden, Henry, Mayo, DeRozan, but yeah, it's slim pickins really.
I used to think the Bulls definitely needed to upgrade their 2 but really, what's out there? I think a Brewer/Bogans/Korver three-headed monster will do just fine once the team's back at full strength.
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Jan 2, 2011 0:02:41 GMT -5
Landry Fields has impressed me a bit. I don't think he's gonna be a top 5 guard in the NBA or anything (although I'm willing to bet most Knicks fans will claim he already is, damn nuts) but there's something there. Kinda reminds me of Doug Christie a bit.
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Post by m00sey22 on Jan 2, 2011 0:03:02 GMT -5
I thought Brewer would've played a bigger role with them. As for Harden, Derozan and Mayo they all show glimpses at times, but it's iffy at best. Derozan has the best opportunity
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Jan 2, 2011 0:05:15 GMT -5
Well Brewer is starting to get the bulk of minutes. He works the passing lanes like nobody's business, reminds me of Nate McMillan a bit. He got off to a slow start because of some injuries. Bogans minutes are starting to dip and we're starting to see more Brewer and Korver out there. I like Brewer but I cringe whenever he shoots a 15-17 footer.
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Post by m00sey22 on Jan 2, 2011 0:06:32 GMT -5
Brewer is the perfect fit I think, but he needs to improve his shot. Teams leave him open and double on Boozer and Rose. Never have been a big fan of Bogans
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Jan 2, 2011 0:09:29 GMT -5
I used to think they absolutely needed to have a sharpshooter out on the perimeter if Rose and Deng were starting but really, those two are starting to hit some bombs. What's gonna kill them is if they don't find someone outside of Boozer/Rose/Deng to put the ball in the hoop. That's where I was hoping Korver would come in. Doesn't have to put up 15-20 a night, just pitch in when one of those three have an off night.
Brewer's never gonna have a jumper, he's got that arm bone thing. Will never be able to put an accurate consistent arch on the ball.
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Post by Akomplice on Jan 2, 2011 0:10:12 GMT -5
If there is one Knick fan that believes Landry is top five, Id be amazed. Bulls need a healthy Azubuike for Thibs.
As for this year I would just start Korver, once the team is healthy he is their best option I believe.
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Post by m00sey22 on Jan 2, 2011 0:11:59 GMT -5
Thats right I forgot about that. He doesnt need to score if he plays defense like he has in the past. Noah has chipped in which helps, they need some consistent bench scoring and that's where they need Korver to do what he did in Utah. Gibson has played well for them though.
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Jan 2, 2011 0:15:30 GMT -5
Yeah I love Taj. He's mini Boozer.
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Post by m00sey22 on Jan 2, 2011 0:17:40 GMT -5
A Barbosa or a House would be perfect off the bench for the Bulls. Start Brewer and let the other come off the bench for the bench scoring they need.
As for Landry, He's nice but not even close to top 5
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Jan 2, 2011 0:20:10 GMT -5
Well House is obviously unavailable, hehe. I don't see how they'd be able to match up to Barbosa's salary without giving up Luol.
If they upgrade, it's gonna be either through the bargain bin or it's gonna be for someone that's still making peanuts (rookie contract). The name OJ Mayo keeps popping up but I don't see how that possibly happens. I'd be willing to bet a considerable amount that they try and get it done with Korver/Brewer this season and use their MLE in the offseason to address that gap.
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Post by m00sey22 on Jan 2, 2011 0:22:17 GMT -5
I don't Barbosa would cost much, maybe add a third team into the deal, something like the Raptors ending up with Mayo, Barbosa to the Bulls, some picks or young players to Memphis. I can see them adding another sg in the off season though, as really its their only position where they struggle right now.
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