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Post by kmatrixg on Dec 18, 2010 2:34:55 GMT -5
I'm not sure I buy into that yet.. like you said, they still have yet to play good against a great team like LA or boston. I still think they lose a 7 game series against a great team... meaning they shouldn't make it past the conference finals...
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Post by mgcoug2 on Dec 18, 2010 16:39:23 GMT -5
I'm not even sure what to think of the moves the magic made today although defensively having turk and arenas on the floor at the same time could be interesting
for the other team
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Post by Hammer-Time on Dec 18, 2010 16:42:08 GMT -5
Well at this point i think Jrich and vince are equal to each other... the loss of gortot is the problem
Turk sure did nice with orlando was it a fluke or was it just how he meshed with the squad?
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Post by coleworld on Dec 18, 2010 17:55:13 GMT -5
The Magic took a HUGE gamble. This team now has no defense out of D12. They're quickly turning into the Knicks. They will need to outscore their opponent. Also what happens when D12 is in foul trouble or worst case injured...Down goes the Magic.
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Post by shawncro on Dec 18, 2010 18:42:26 GMT -5
Id say Jrich is better then Vince...That Hedo will perform better then in Toronto and Phoenix...The X factor is Arenas...He could destroy them or really help them. But yeah, defensively they will be more vunerable, one Nelson or Arenas will match up against Wade, Allen...And the salaries...Thats the biggest problem for me, if it doesnt work out, they added a TON of salary thats gonna be tough to move. But one article said their chemistry was iffy, so I guess something had to be done.
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Post by coleworld on Dec 18, 2010 19:31:29 GMT -5
Id say Jrich is better then Vince...That Hedo will perform better then in Toronto and Phoenix...The X factor is Arenas...He could destroy them or really help them. But yeah, defensively they will be more vunerable, one Nelson or Arenas will match up against Wade, Allen...And the salaries...Thats the biggest problem for me, if it doesnt work out, they added a TON of salary thats gonna be tough to move. But one article said their chemistry was iffy, so I guess something had to be done. Yeah the chemistry was thanks to D12 throwing his teammates under the bus and criticizing the front office. |
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Post by mgcoug2 on Dec 19, 2010 22:10:52 GMT -5
I wonder how long until the van gundy blimp gets deflated
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Post by kmatrixg on Dec 19, 2010 22:40:34 GMT -5
DUDES
What the fuck did I miss? The Magic actually went through with Arenas?
AND HEDO?!?! Was the ADRIAN-WOJ actually accurate with a report???
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Dec 19, 2010 22:53:34 GMT -5
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Post by kmatrixg on Dec 19, 2010 22:53:38 GMT -5
I'm amazed at the power, the energy, the level of commitment and risk involved with all of this.. I just can't believe one single power at be can just **POOF** change the way people look at them so FAST, and with such utter disregard for the past! I mean... Just wow. I'm speechless that this one entity can undergo so much change, to turn from this underachieving, middle of the road, laughing stock of...well, EVERYTHING!..SO FAST! My gosh.. Just think about it -- Two days ago Adrian Wojnarowski was a nobody when he reported this: sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-magictradetalks121710 -- (Look, he even equated himself with a slug: "slug=aw") If anyone read that report, I'm almost certain everyone thought to themselves, "Shut up Woj" Look who's ridin' the high tide now fellas... His report was actually ACCURATE. Adrian Wojnarowski is now GOD.. in his own eyes of course. |
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Post by coleworld on Dec 19, 2010 22:58:22 GMT -5
DUDES What the fuck did I miss? The Magic actually went through with Arenas? AND HEDO?!?! Was the ADRIAN-WOJ actually accurate with a report??? Their is a first for everyone.  |
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Post by kmatrixg on Dec 19, 2010 23:00:40 GMT -5
I absolutely agree 100% though. Nelson, Arenas, Richardson, Hedo and Dwight on the defensive end is going to be like watching old folks navigate around the physical therapist during "dance class"
Only one person there really knows what they're doing.
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Post by coleworld on Dec 19, 2010 23:03:41 GMT -5
I absolutely agree 100% though. Nelson, Arenas, Richardson, Hedo and Dwight on the defensive end is going to be like watching old folks navigate around the physical therapist during "dance class" Only one person there really knows what they're doing. Like I said before the Magic have turned to the Knicks. They will have to outscore their opponents now. |
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Post by runngunallday on Dec 19, 2010 23:29:57 GMT -5
jrich > vc all day
arenas > shard all day
turk,clark ~ piet, gortat
win win trade for the magic. they have the best defensive big man in the game so they can play team defense around him. should be interesting to see how far they go with all these scorers
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Post by coleworld on Dec 20, 2010 0:01:56 GMT -5
Yeah but once Howard is in foul trouble they're screwed and what if he gets injured? O.o
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Post by ib4 on Dec 20, 2010 9:10:29 GMT -5
good trades for the Magic. who comes off the bench?
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Post by mgcoug2 on Dec 20, 2010 12:28:44 GMT -5
Don't get too attached to AWOJs jock he is wrong way more often than the avg NBA reporter which is kinda like saying Peter Vescey is good at his job. NBA beat reporters just make stuff up after playing with the trade machine on ESPN
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Post by ib4 on Dec 20, 2010 12:58:32 GMT -5
i hate beat writers in general. "according to a source"...so vague
the guy in the corner of the room could be "a source"
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Post by mgcoug2 on Dec 20, 2010 14:35:41 GMT -5
Ray me and you are as good of sources as anybody. If you follow and talk basketball its a source heh
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Post by kmatrixg on Dec 20, 2010 14:37:26 GMT -5
Don't get too attached to AWOJs jock he is wrong way more often than the avg NBA reporter which is kinda like saying Peter Vescey is good at his job. NBA beat reporters just make stuff up after playing with the trade machine on ESPN  I was pointing that out with my mockery |
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Post by yesisme1 on Dec 20, 2010 19:49:45 GMT -5
jrich > vc all day arenas > shard all day turk,clark ~ piet, gortat win win trade for the magic. they have the best defensive big man in the game so they can play team defense around him. should be interesting to see how far they go with all these scorers It is fair that the GM of the Celtics would like the trade, not that they were going to beat the Celtics this year anyway unless there are major injuries before the playoffs. |
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Post by m00sey22 on Dec 21, 2010 11:41:28 GMT -5
I like the deal for the Magic, but surely there has to be a follow up trade to get them some help down low. This team is in trouble without Howard.
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Post by kmatrixg on Dec 25, 2010 14:34:59 GMT -5
Is anyone else as excited for the NBA playoffs this year as me? I'll tell you why I am - having the Knicks in the playoffs again, especially with that team they currently have, is going to be an electric place in May. I personally can't wait to see some MSG home playoff games
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Post by coleworld on Dec 25, 2010 23:48:07 GMT -5
How about those Heat O.o
The Lakers couldn't find a way to stop us.
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Post by mgcoug2 on Dec 27, 2010 15:00:42 GMT -5
quick what is your top 5 in the nba at each position?
mine: PG Deron WIlliams, CP3, Rondo, Rose, Nash
ill put up sg tomorrow etc
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Post by ib4 on Dec 27, 2010 16:00:29 GMT -5
quick what is your top 5 in the nba at each position? mine: PG Deron WIlliams, CP3, Rondo, Rose, Nash ill put up sg tomorrow etc Paul, Deron, Rondo, Rose, Westbrook. I'm sorry I love Nash but the 'prototypical' PG has geared toward more athleticism nowadays. |
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Dec 27, 2010 16:39:50 GMT -5
quick what is your top 5 in the nba at each position? mine: PG Deron WIlliams, CP3, Rondo, Rose, Nash ill put up sg tomorrow etc Paul, Deron, Rondo, Rose, Westbrook. I'm sorry I love Nash but the 'prototypical' PG has geared toward more athleticism nowadays. Ray's list is mine as well. |
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Post by Hammer-Time on Dec 27, 2010 16:49:13 GMT -5
and mine...
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Post by mgcoug2 on Dec 27, 2010 18:03:35 GMT -5
Ill buy westbrook when the thunder actually start looking like a team again or more than a couple of games
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Dec 27, 2010 18:31:45 GMT -5
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I was pointing that out with my mockery
