coleworld
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Post by coleworld on Jan 21, 2011 23:30:47 GMT -5
I agree with MP. I think the team you got after this deal is a borderline #8 out West, tops. Really wow. |
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coleworld
Rotation Player
former Mavs
Posts: 250
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Post by coleworld on Jan 21, 2011 23:31:12 GMT -5
All this hate good lord :lol:
but we'll see.
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Jan 21, 2011 23:32:27 GMT -5
Sorry man. I just don't see how you get it going. You don't have a go-to guy offensively, Sheed and Nash could very well drop in TC. Tons of question marks.
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Post by Akomplice on Jan 21, 2011 23:36:20 GMT -5
I think that if the Celtics resign Shaq the entire league are fools for making a trade to go all in. Its really hard to even get to them and you still got to go through the West. I mean I personally would have continued with Livingston, but I also never thought that the Rockets would win the West either so who knows....
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Post by Brandon on Jan 21, 2011 23:39:22 GMT -5
Wouldn't say cap room is overrated. Think of it as an expiring. It's also nice when you're dealing with the teams that go over the hard cap. As long as you have your picks and a couple solid young guys, cap room is excellent.
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Post by runngunallday on Jan 21, 2011 23:43:50 GMT -5
Wouldn't say cap room is overrated. Think of it as an expiring. It's also nice when you're dealing with the teams that go over the hard cap. As long as you have your picks and a couple solid young guys, cap room is excellent. lol sorry i deleted my comment cuz i felt bad criticizing the new guy. i was basically saying that i thought he could of loaded up on more assets because all thats of value on that roster now is livingston and his pick back. but yeah its not completely overrated but not worthy to the point where you just give away guys that can play for crappy 1sts. cap space did hardly do anything for me through FA for back to back seasons when i was rebuilding, but the talent level has improved now. |
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Post by amanuel0620 on Jan 22, 2011 0:03:56 GMT -5
Hate to "pick on the new guy", but that Pietrus/Butler deal is pretty bad for Atlanta. Honestly, I'd want Pietrus over Butler head-to-head. Mediocre player with severely inflated numbers due to his bottom of the barrel team with a huge contract for a guy of his talents. The Pietrus/Butler deal isnt really that bad when you look at it. Butler might have scored by being on a bad team but look at his shooting percentage, its not like the guy was scoring with a low clip. He was shooting 45% from field and 42% from three point land. And if you look at his career he has shot 40%+ all his season from downtown beside his rookie year. His contract compared to player like Stephen Jackson is reasonable IMO. But we can agree to disagree. |
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Post by dukefan on Jan 22, 2011 0:04:44 GMT -5
really looking forward to competing next season while maintaining my young core of beno/ellis/bosh/gasol
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Post by kmatrixg on Jan 22, 2011 0:09:59 GMT -5
Wouldn't say cap room is overrated. Think of it as an expiring. It's also nice when you're dealing with the teams that go over the hard cap. As long as you have your picks and a couple solid young guys, cap room is excellent. lol sorry i deleted my comment cuz i felt bad criticizing the new guy. i was basically saying that i thought he could of loaded up on more assets because all thats of value on that roster now is livingston and his pick back. This coming from the guy that traded Curry for the Grizzlies pick...  Sorry man, had to do it.  |
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Post by heelsguy25 on Jan 22, 2011 0:52:40 GMT -5
Dallas..how is Paulding and his 1 mil expiring contract a key piece in the deal with Atlanta??
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coleworld
Rotation Player
former Mavs
Posts: 250
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Post by coleworld on Jan 22, 2011 0:53:29 GMT -5
Like I posted on the thread.
I don't care that he is expiring I need him because he would be my starting SG on paper.
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Jan 22, 2011 0:55:19 GMT -5
If he's your starting SG, all-in shouldn't be discussed, ever. He's beyond IR fodder man. Swingmen with C inside are atrocious
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Post by heelsguy25 on Jan 22, 2011 0:56:20 GMT -5
Like I posted on the thread. I don't care that he is expiring I need him because he would be my starting SG on paper. Okay and how is that going all in for a chance at a title? hes not a starter type player.. |
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Jan 22, 2011 0:57:12 GMT -5
Like I posted on the thread. I don't care that he is expiring I need him because he would be my starting SG on paper. Okay and how is that going all in for a chance at a title? hes not a starter type player.. He's not even a 2nd stringer. ;D |
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Post by ib4 on Jan 22, 2011 0:58:34 GMT -5
regardless, amanuel would have to re-accept anyway...so the trade is on hold...
gnite everybody!
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Jan 22, 2011 17:24:29 GMT -5
I don't know who's crazier - him, asking for 1600, or me paying 1600.. Equally insane |
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Post by kmatrixg on Jan 22, 2011 17:28:34 GMT -5
I don't know who's crazier - him, asking for 1600, or me paying 1600.. Equally insane ;D I was price gouged! His reasoning for asking for that much was "come on, you have the cash"  I'm being targeted |
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Jan 22, 2011 17:44:19 GMT -5
Almost a camp's worth of cash for two guys that'll probably never play? Yeah, I'd say you were gouged. The reasoning just makes it funny, hehe.
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Post by kmatrixg on Jan 22, 2011 19:48:23 GMT -5
Well, my reasoning is simple: if I didn't have kidd, I wouldn't be so liberal moving this cash. Considering he got me 11,000 cash (roughly last season, I'd rather get two guys I'll have for 3 years than two 30 somethings I'd only be able to sign for a max of two years, and not be able to send to the D-league.
It still is crazy though, I must agree.
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Post by Akomplice on Jan 22, 2011 23:35:29 GMT -5
Yeah I got no problem when people over pay for picks considering they have money to use. For people who write articles during this time it's easy to overpay. All the money that I moved for picks will be earned back by articles and two sims from Joe Johnson really.
However if your team that don't earn money and don't write articles, then it is foolish.
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Post by afro on Jan 23, 2011 1:39:58 GMT -5
maybe people should wait till a trade goes through to talk shit...salary fuck up gave Mavs a chance to walk away from the deal with Hawks after he saw people hating on the deal for him Sorry Hawks GM, welcome to the league  |
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Post by Brandon on Jan 23, 2011 16:41:35 GMT -5
maybe people should wait till a trade goes through to talk shit...salary fuck up gave Mavs a chance to walk away from the deal with Hawks after he saw people hating on the deal for him Sorry Hawks GM, welcome to the league Agreed. If you have a problem with someones deal, you request the council. That's all. |
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Post by Hammer-Time on Jan 23, 2011 16:50:06 GMT -5
maybe people should wait till a trade goes through to talk shit...salary fuck up gave Mavs a chance to walk away from the deal with Hawks after he saw people hating on the deal for him Sorry Hawks GM, welcome to the league [/quote Well then he goes off and trades Livy and a first away for udric and a pile of crap in JR... |
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Post by Brandon on Jan 23, 2011 16:52:04 GMT -5
maybe people should wait till a trade goes through to talk shit...salary fuck up gave Mavs a chance to walk away from the deal with Hawks after he saw people hating on the deal for him Sorry Hawks GM, welcome to the league [/quote Well then he goes off and trades Livy and a first away for udric and a pile of crap in JR... Yup, I don't see the logic in that at all. A guy who has never played, and we've yet to see him play, and another guy who's value is higher then it should be because of his NBA name. |
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Post by runngunallday on Jan 23, 2011 17:30:41 GMT -5
lol yeah wow at that mavs/hornets trade.. quite lopsided
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Post by dukefan on Jan 23, 2011 18:07:36 GMT -5
lol yeah wow at that mavs/hornets trade.. quite lopsided why's that |
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Post by Akomplice on Jan 23, 2011 18:21:39 GMT -5
I don't think the trade is all that bad really, Beno does look interesting.
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Post by Brandon on Jan 23, 2011 18:33:48 GMT -5
Don't like the fact that a first went with Shaun. Otherwise, maybe Beno could be great. Steve Nash's early days with the Spurs.
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Post by amanuel0620 on Jan 23, 2011 23:20:53 GMT -5
Don't like the fact that a first went with Shaun. Otherwise, maybe Beno could be great. Steve Nash's early days with the Spurs. He didnt need to take a gamble trying to get the fake NASH WHEN HE ALMOST HAD THE REAL ONE ;D |
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Post by Hammer-Time on Jan 23, 2011 23:22:27 GMT -5
lol yeah wow at that mavs/hornets trade.. quite lopsided why's that You raped dude, livy and the first for 1 player who might be good... |
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