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Post by ib4 on Dec 13, 2010 0:21:37 GMT -5
trade exceptions are going to cost a lot more money.
effective the start of the 2005 season.
i was going to abolish it all together, but w/e. The cost will be 1000 per million! up to 5 million per trade.
why? too much work on my part, overuse, and in retrospect it is essentially cheating the system.
also going to make a rule that no two teams may trade with one another in between within 10 sim days (or one real day)
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Post by kmatrixg on Dec 13, 2010 0:24:13 GMT -5
Good idea. TE's are hard to obtain in RL, so they should here too.
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Dec 13, 2010 0:34:35 GMT -5
Good call. It is a royal pain in the ass at times to process deals that include trade exceptions.
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Post by mgcoug2 on Dec 13, 2010 0:42:18 GMT -5
Yup I think this is a good change!
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Post by dukefan on Dec 13, 2010 1:54:40 GMT -5
ditto...
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Post by shawncro on Dec 13, 2010 7:52:50 GMT -5
I think its def too much...Sometimes you simply cant get the salaries to work and its off by a few K, and that really isnt cheating the system IMO. It helps GMs with trades and it helps activity...On the other hand when u buy a 5 million TE, yeah I can understand thats a bit too much. Basically my idea would be that a 1 million TE should get a small raise, but the 5 million TE should cost alot more...For example Id reccomend a system where the cost for the TE is doubled with every additional million:
1million TE 400cash
2million TE 800cash
3 million TE 1600cash
4 million TE 3200cash
5 million TE 6400cash
Buying a 1 million TE for 1000 cash just seems way over the top, and overreaction to one 2 part deal. We have had TEs for 6,7 seasons now, so its not like someone grossly cheated or something.
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Post by ib4 on Dec 13, 2010 9:25:12 GMT -5
I think its def too much...Sometimes you simply cant get the salaries to work and its off by a few K, and that really isnt cheating the system IMO. It helps GMs with trades and it helps activity...On the other hand when u buy a 5 million TE, yeah I can understand thats a bit too much. Basically my idea would be that a 1 million TE should get a small raise, but the 5 million TE should cost alot more...For example Id reccomend a system where the cost for the TE is doubled with every additional million: 1million TE 400cash 2million TE 800cash 3 million TE 1600cash 4 million TE 3200cash 5 million TE 6400cash Buying a 1 million TE for 1000 cash just seems way over the top, and overreaction to one 2 part deal. We have had TEs for 6,7 seasons now, so its not like someone grossly cheated or something. its not so much that one 2-part deal...it's more that I'm just tired of having to manually adjust salaries when there are TE's in 97% of trades in this league. If a trade is offa few thousand bucks, sign a FA. Maybe i'll lift the "one FA every 24 hrs" rule too |
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Post by shawncro on Dec 13, 2010 12:48:05 GMT -5
Yeah but what if ur at 15 and cant sign an additional FA?
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Post by ib4 on Dec 13, 2010 13:05:29 GMT -5
Yeah but what if ur at 15 and cant sign an additional FA? write a few articles to get more cash to buy the more-expensive TE? or make other smaller trades to acquire the right amount of salary? |
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Dec 13, 2010 13:22:04 GMT -5
If it doesn't work financially, don't do the deal.  |
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Post by shawncro on Dec 13, 2010 16:11:01 GMT -5
Wow ok sorry for trying to help, I will never do it again since everyone is trying to be a smartass...Now after so many seasons its suddenly so hard to enter it, and suddenly a 1 million TE has to cost 1000 cash, the amount which some teams earn in a season. Again I agree about the ridiculous trades that are off by 4-5 million, but that a 1 million TE has to cost 1000 cash, a number thats close to the amount some teams earn over the whole season with claims, its bullshit. Now I know It wont get me anywhere, but I had to said it...Im out.
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Post by ib4 on Dec 13, 2010 16:17:01 GMT -5
Wow ok sorry for trying to help, I will never do it again since everyone is trying to be a smartass...Now after so many seasons its suddenly so hard to enter it, and suddenly a 1 million TE has to cost 1000 cash, the amount which some teams earn in a season. Again I agree about the ridiculous trades that are off by 4-5 million, but that a 1 million TE has to cost 1000 cash, a number thats close to the amount some teams earn over the whole season with claims, its bullshit. Now I know It wont get me anywhere, but I had to said it...Im out. sorry you feel this way.... also sorry you feel that the only means of making money in this league is double doubles and 5 players scoring double digit points |
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Post by ib4 on Dec 13, 2010 16:18:29 GMT -5
ok perhaps 1k for every 1 mil TE is a lot. I guess $500 for every 1 mil of TE makes more sense.
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Post by dukefan on Dec 13, 2010 16:27:15 GMT -5
I think its def too much...Sometimes you simply cant get the salaries to work and its off by a few K, and that really isnt cheating the system IMO. It helps GMs with trades and it helps activity...On the other hand when u buy a 5 million TE, yeah I can understand thats a bit too much. Basically my idea would be that a 1 million TE should get a small raise, but the 5 million TE should cost alot more...For example Id reccomend a system where the cost for the TE is doubled with every additional million: 1million TE 400cash 2million TE 800cash 3 million TE 1600cash 4 million TE 3200cash 5 million TE 6400cash Buying a 1 million TE for 1000 cash just seems way over the top, and overreaction to one 2 part deal. We have had TEs for 6,7 seasons now, so its not like someone grossly cheated or something. i actually like what you suggested...doubling it makes it a little easier to get 1-3 million te's but once you get up to 4 and 5 it should be way more expensive just like you have it |
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Post by ib4 on Dec 13, 2010 16:38:45 GMT -5
I think its def too much...Sometimes you simply cant get the salaries to work and its off by a few K, and that really isnt cheating the system IMO. It helps GMs with trades and it helps activity...On the other hand when u buy a 5 million TE, yeah I can understand thats a bit too much. Basically my idea would be that a 1 million TE should get a small raise, but the 5 million TE should cost alot more...For example Id reccomend a system where the cost for the TE is doubled with every additional million: 1million TE 400cash 2million TE 800cash 3 million TE 1600cash 4 million TE 3200cash 5 million TE 6400cash Buying a 1 million TE for 1000 cash just seems way over the top, and overreaction to one 2 part deal. We have had TEs for 6,7 seasons now, so its not like someone grossly cheated or something. i actually like what you suggested...doubling it makes it a little easier to get 1-3 million te's but once you get up to 4 and 5 it should be way more expensive just like you have it my whole reasoning was to almost eliminate TE's altogether, so I would actually want the opposite of making the lower TE's "easier" to get, but i will think about it some more |
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Post by Akomplice on Dec 13, 2010 16:44:11 GMT -5
I think were all guilty of taking advantage of the nice TE feature. I like the new rules, would have no problem getting rid of them either.
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Dec 13, 2010 17:05:26 GMT -5
How about not having the price questioned at all and just getting rid of it altogether?
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Dec 13, 2010 17:06:05 GMT -5
I think its def too much...Sometimes you simply cant get the salaries to work and its off by a few K, and that really isnt cheating the system IMO. It helps GMs with trades and it helps activity...On the other hand when u buy a 5 million TE, yeah I can understand thats a bit too much. Basically my idea would be that a 1 million TE should get a small raise, but the 5 million TE should cost alot more...For example Id reccomend a system where the cost for the TE is doubled with every additional million: 1million TE 400cash 2million TE 800cash 3 million TE 1600cash 4 million TE 3200cash 5 million TE 6400cash Buying a 1 million TE for 1000 cash just seems way over the top, and overreaction to one 2 part deal. We have had TEs for 6,7 seasons now, so its not like someone grossly cheated or something. i actually like what you suggested...doubling it makes it a little easier to get 1-3 million te's but once you get up to 4 and 5 it should be way more expensive just like you have it That is until people start trying to split these TEs between 8 trades. Anyone else find it funny that the guy who invented TEs in sim leagues is vehemently against them? |
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Post by kmatrixg on Dec 13, 2010 17:36:01 GMT -5
I still think having a set amount you can tap into each year is a decent idea. There would have to be strict rules in using the TE - like during FA for example. 5 million a year to use is fine with me. Each year, just like camps, we get 5 million exemption we can use - at a cost nonetheless. It's a useful tool for dealing, and it won't get completely out of hand
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Post by kmatrixg on Dec 13, 2010 17:37:25 GMT -5
BTW did anyone else see that Shawn ended his rant with I'm out? Did he quit?
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Post by shawncro on Dec 13, 2010 18:07:12 GMT -5
Out of this topic lol..And back in to clear things up, Im not quitting, Im not even mad...Out again.
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Post by kmatrixg on Dec 13, 2010 19:29:38 GMT -5
Out of this topic lol..And back in to clear things up, Im not quitting, Im not even mad...Out again. Lol, alright. Just checking |
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Post by carlos51093 on Dec 13, 2010 20:49:36 GMT -5
I dont really see the big deal. It was a great idea and one that we all took advantage of, but TEs have only been around (atleast in my experience) in leagues that Brian ran. It's not like getting rid of them or making them expensive will end trading, you'll just have to get more creative
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Post by GhostOfBrian on Dec 14, 2010 0:13:00 GMT -5
I dont really see the big deal. It was a great idea and one that we all took advantage of, but TEs have only been around (atleast in my experience) in leagues that Brian ran. It's not like getting rid of them or making them expensive will end trading, you'll just have to get more creative And like I said, we didn't have them in BLT and that didn't deter trading at all. |
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Post by Quintero on Dec 14, 2010 0:25:25 GMT -5
The elimination/reduction of TE's should increase the amount of trades that occur as smaller trades will be needed in order to get the big ones to work financially. I have no issue with if TE's are eliminated or if they stay in an altered manner.
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Post by crazymike2021 on Dec 14, 2010 1:06:44 GMT -5
looks good
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Post by Brandon on Dec 14, 2010 13:01:57 GMT -5
Why not just a limit on TE's per season per team? Allowed upto 5 million in TE's a season (1 million TE each), and if you use it all in one trade, that's it. Still the cost obviously, but I don't think that would be too terrible.
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Post by mgcoug2 on Dec 14, 2010 14:10:55 GMT -5
I actually like not having them even though I have used them. It makes GM pay for bad decisions a bit
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Post by shawncro on Dec 14, 2010 19:39:24 GMT -5
What bad decisions?
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Post by ib4 on Dec 17, 2010 16:39:45 GMT -5
you know, since this a bitch-and-moan thread by the simmer anyway, I'd also want to put a price on trading MLE/LLE. Since it's basically the same hassle as TE's (having to manually adjust salaries to work)
Yeah. I'm gonna make that cost you too.
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